7 Responses

  1. Darrentimold at |

    You are missing the point.

    Joe Bentley - How many popular music videos can you think of where men dance around naked and where women are portrayed in positions of power and men are as sex objects? You can’t think of any? Do you think this is a problem?

    1. Katabasis
      Katabasis at |

      Not a peruser of the various diet coke adverts over the years then Darren?

      1. darrentimold1
        darrentimold1 at |

        You’ve named one example, and it still isn’t a very good one, nor does it mean that I think the Diet Coke adverts are a good thing. They also portray women as giggling idiots fawning over a buffed up man.

        Will you accept watching naked girls dance awkwardly around fully-dressed predatory men while they sing “do it like it hurt” and about ‘blurred lines’ (of consent?) is an incredibly obvious visual imbalance?

        But yes you’re right (kind of) the Diet Coke is one tiny drop in the ocean of misogynistic media.

        1. Katabasis
          Katabasis at |

          Misandry is rife, and always conveniently ignored in these kind of debates.

          There’s also always an underlying current of prudism. So what if women want to fawn over a buff man?

          And visual imbalance? I spent three years working as a male stripper. Try “safety imbalance” between male and female strippers…

          1. darrentimold1
            darrentimold1 at |

            Misandry is rife in pop music is it? Please do show me where it is.

            Also please show me how misandry is more rife than misogyny in every day life.

            This is nothing to do with prudism, I’ve already said it is fine for a woman to do as she please - the question is why? And why do men not feel the need to do the same? Why is being naked in a video next to men in suits made out to be glamorous?

            Your point about strippers is irrelevant. So you don’t find it weird at all a video with 3 older men in suits are stroking, sleazing around naked young models, whilst singing about blurred lines of consent?

    2. Mike Beachy at |

      When women spend as much money and time trying to see men naked, your point will be valid. Women should not be forced to do anything they don’t want to do, but they should be allowed to dance around naked for money if they want to as well.

      1. darrentimold1
        darrentimold1 at |

        Can you not see how it is damaging on the one hand that women are constantly portrayed as sex objects in the media but on the other slams them for being sluts if they dare explore their sexuality?

        You’re 100% right - it is a woman’s choice if they want to do this, no question at all.

        But I think the real issue is WHY do women want to do this? What’s the reason for women thinking and feeling empowered when they’re on film naked dancing around men in suits? A culture that equates female beauty with female worth. Do you not think this is a problem?

        You don’t see Robin Thicke taking his clothes off and dancing around to sell records do you?